More Windows Vista Problems – Stupid Mouse Cant Click!

 

This problem is obviously still happening. If you can afford to be without your computer for a week or 2, I would be glad to work on it free of charge. If you are local to Los Angeles, I will pick up the PC and give you a receipt for proof that I have your PC. I will work on this issue until I have fixed it and post the answers here for everyone else. I will then drive back to you to drop off the PC. All of this will be free of charge. If you are not local to Los Angeles, all you will have to do is pay the FedEx shipping 1 way. I will fix your PC free of charge and return it to you via FedEx. Feel free to call me (Tim Biden) at 909-992-2031 or 877-243-3601.

I have posted two different solutions to this problem at Vista Mouse Cant Click – Fixed! Please look there if these symptoms affect you.

I have now seen 2 computers that have very similar problems. Both have Windows Vista Home Premium (It may affect other versions as well) and both have problems where the computers don’t seem to freeze, you can still move the mouse but can’t click on anything. You also can’t click and drag. Also the mouse looks like a standard pointer, not the spinning blue circle.

I have noticed that it does not happen in Safe Mode and it also doesn’t happen if you go into MSConfig and click on “Diagnostic Startup” then reboot.

After much troubleshooting, I have determined that the issue is at least partly with the Plug and play service. When I disabled that service, I noticed the problem went away. I then disabled everything and re-enabled the Plug And Play service and went through the process of finding which services is conflicting with the Plug and play service.

Apparently it is a few services working in conjunction that make the Plug and Play Service go haywire. I can’t seem to put my finger on it but I know for certain that disabling the Plug and Play Service makes the problem go away. So disable it if you need a quick fix but don’t forget that, unfortunately, it also makes USB devices unable to work. =(

Happy Computing,
Tim

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60 Responses to “More Windows Vista Problems – Stupid Mouse Cant Click!”

 
  1. whatispunk Says:

    The same thing happens to me. I have Vista Ultimate.

    Typically, if I have open programs, clicking on one will cause it to immediately lose focus. I can’t click on desktop icons, but sometimes I can click on the Start menu and other things in the taskbar, but not always.

    I have noticed that I can press the Windows key on the keyboard to open the start menu and can successfully click on things in the start menu. Usually, I’ll do this to reboot the PC and things behave normally for an unspecified period of time.

    The mouse never ceases to work while I’m doing something, it always is after I’ve been away from the PC for a few hours and its been on screensaver (no stand-by or hibernation though).

    If you find a better solution please let me know!

    Thanks

  2. alan Says:

    Exact same issue, finally found some people who are also experiencing it! Have tried just about *everything* on both Vista 32 and 64 (several fresh builds), this is starting to kill me.

    That registry fix did not work, but I do agree it may be Office related (or Office update related). Everything was fine until early November.

    Although, if I recall it happened on a build before I installed Office. Not sure, I’ve tried too many things!

    Please keep this thread alive!

  3. Benjamin Williamson Says:

    Happening to me too. At first it was only on startup, I would get a few clicks, then nothing. I open task manager, then close it, this seems to clear the bug. But now it re-appears after an non-specific period of time.

    I got information that deleting a file called infcache from windows folder would fix. Didn’t help me.

    Any help would be greatly appriciated,
    Benjamin

  4. Tim Says:

    Hey everybody, please keep posting here. I want to know what works and what doesn’t. Since I my Vista machine isn’t experiencing this problem right now, I can’t troubleshoot it.

    If you find the solution, come back and post it. I want to let everyone know what is happening.

    Thank you!
    Tim

  5. leek Says:

    I came to work today and started having this very problem :(

    I have to click 2-3 times for anything to work (not just Office applications). Firefox, for example, is harder to browse with now because it misses clicks. I have to click more precisely on every button or link, or it won’t be detected, and I usually must click twice or more. I can’t believe I became this sloppy with a mouse over the weekend :)

    I went to Folder Options and noticed that single-click was still enabled, so I know it’s not that.

    Don’t know what could have done it over the weekend, other than perhaps a security update that I installed.

  6. leek Says:

    Oh, and it could just be that the left button is finally worn out. I’m going to try replacing it with another mouse.

  7. henrik Says:

    Hi, I am glad to see that I am not the only one having this fault.

    It occures when i have been away or simply using the computer for a while. I can not klick the shortcuts, fast shortcuts or even close/minimize the windows on the “X” or “_”sign.

    I have now seen that this problem occures even when exchanging my mouse.

    The most frustrating think is that I also have the problem when I am running a VST plugin in the music program Sonar. The mouse click gets in activated and I can not run the GTR3 plugin it is just a freezed window “responds to nothing” (ctrl-del) and back to the GTR windows works but when I click it again it freezes.

    Please help me there seem to be a few of you that has this problem. It seem to mee that must be a Vista problem. I am running Vista Home Premium edition.

    I really don’t know what to do.

    BGR
    Henrik

  8. Tim Says:

    Hi Henrick,

    I may have a fix but I am not sure if you looked at it or tried it. Did you go to http://blog.bidenpc.com/477/vista-mouse-cant-click-fixed/ Some people have reported that the steps listed there fixed it that problem. Try it and let me know.

    Thanks,
    Tim

  9. John Says:

    Same problem as described by Benjamin in reply #3. I tried the fix described in http://blog.bidenpc.com/477/vista-mouse-cant-click-fixed/ , but it did not work for me. So I tried a fresh install of vista and I still have the issue (I have no yet installed office, so it can’t be an office issue).

    Any other suggestions on what to try would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    John

  10. Tim Says:

    I would love to be of more help but my 1 and only vista system has never exhibited these symptoms. I have only seen it on other peoples PCs. If someone would like to send me their PC that is doing this I will send it back to them fixed and post the complete fix for it on this blog. If you are interested, email me at sales@bidenpc.com and we can set something up.

    Tim

  11. Jeff Says:

    Unfortunately I don’t have a solution yet but can at least lend emotional support. I’m running into this problem on a Dell E6500 that I just received yesterday with a fresh install of Vista Ultimate. I found a few things:

    1. Happens with touchpad, pointing stick, wireless mouse, wired USB mouse, so presumably it’s not hardware related

    2. As someone mentioned above, one workaround is to bring up the Task Manager

    3. It’s not just that the mouse button stops responding, I noticed that mousing over the _ and X on any given window won’t cause them to highlight as they should

    Anyways, I’ll keep googling and update here if I find something..

    Jeff

  12. Will Says:

    My Vista premium machine is doing the same thing. The mouse will move normally and right click but will not left click. This only happens when I haven’t used the mouse for a while like watching a movie or just coming back to the machine after an hour or so. The only thing I found to get it working is to hit control-alt-del & go into task manager. It works normally after that. I have a microsoft laser mouse 5000. It only started happening in the last 2 weeks. & I built the system over a year ago. If I figure out what is causing it I’ll let you all know

  13. Tim Says:

    I’d love that!!! I’d love to do it myself but my systems aren’t exhibiting the necessary symptoms. Please do get back to me if you have an answer!

    Tim

  14. Robbie_G Says:

    Hi all,

    I have a similar problem. I have a new Acer laptop running Vista Home Basic. All has been well and running smoothly – until the other day. I downloaded Vista updates and now my mouse is playing up. I can move it around just fine, but a lot of programs and files I cannot click on to open any more. Some I can, but others not. It doesn’t seem to affect Word. However, I have real problems now accessing anything in the Control Panel. I can’t, for example, get into Device Manager – and using the Enter button doesn’t open it either. I have restored my system quite a number of times now, and that doesn’t help. The mouse works for maybe a couple of minutes, and then I have the problem again. Does anyone have any suggestions. The above tips haven’t alleviated the problem. I am assuming it must be a problem with the updates as I haven’t done anything to my comp that would make me think it was related to something else. Any guidance in this extremely frustrating problem would be most appreciated.

  15. Robbie_G Says:

    Oh, and my touchpad has the same problems now. As in, it can move the cursor around but it can’t open anything. Zero response when I try and use it to open something.

    Please help if you can!

  16. Raymond C Says:

    Not sure if this will help, but I am running Windows Xp Home Edition an have run into this same problem. The Right mouse button will work along with the center scroll wheel, but the Left mouse button will be faulty. If I open the Task Manager once and close it again I gain full functionality in the left mouse button. I haven’t let it sit for any extended period of time as of yet, but will post again if I notice anything in that area.

  17. Robbie_G Says:

    Hi Raymond. Thanks so much for the response. Much appreciated. I’ve tried opening the task manager and closing it again, but no luck. Any other ideas?

  18. Sethwh Says:

    I have the same problem in Vista – I lose the left click randomly during use and after periods of inactivity. I have to hit ctrl-alt-del and close the task manager to regain functionality. I have Vista Home Premium.

    This makes me mad because I bought this Compaq new from circuit city and right out of the box this mouse problem started. I will post what works for me – if I am so lucky.

    My solution could be my Windows XP Pro CD!!!

    -Seth

  19. Aaron Says:

    Yeah, this is happening to me, too. But I’m running XP, so I don’t know if it’s Vista related. Also, I see it happening a lot when I’m playing games, especially World of Warcraft. Just a hunch, but could this be virus related?

  20. Robbie_G Says:

    Mine was fresh out of the box as well, Sethwh. And I know for sure mine isn’t virus-related. I have A-Squared as my resident guard, along with T-timer and Spyware Blaster (and there is also Vista Firewall Control – nice tool), plus I do periodic checks with Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware. I have run scans on all these, as I too initially thought it must have been a virus or other malware. But all was clean. I also did online scans through the reputable scanners. Zero. Clean as a whistle, which it should be given that I don’t visit sites that might compromise the comp or download dodgy things (or play games for that matter). My problem started on Wednesday when I (for the first time) checked the settings for updates and saw that it was set for 3am each morning, hence I wasn’t getting updates automatically downloaded. It said I had more than 30 updates waiting to install, so naively I did the loooong update. And immediately no proper-functioning of the mouse or touchpad. I have since disabled the update facility of Windows as it has totally screwed me. Well done MS. So, that’s how I came to be in this situation. Cursing MS with all the bad language I can muster. So any suggestions – or if anyone has found a sure-fire way to get around this – please let me know!

  21. Raymond C Says:

    quick update. I to play WoW tho my mouse in the game would just die. Moving the mouse around the screen I could see things light up but the pointer would stay in one spot. I did recently buy a USB mouse and a USB keyboard (versus the common hookups PS/2 I believe its called). 3 days in and I havent had any problems.

  22. Will Says:

    I tried uninstalling updates back to december 9th & it still has the same problem. Mine didn’t start until late January so I thought it was an update but now I’ll have to try something else.

  23. Yonah Says:

    Also haveing the same problem. I have a feeling it’s a Nvidia driver problem (one of many I’ve faced in the last 2 years). This same problem usually happens after I leave a full screen video display, such as watching a video with VLC.

  24. Jonah K. Says:

    Identical issue; cannot click the start bar, or desktop depending on how it feels when you boot up. But its always one or the other, never both. Bringing up Task Manager removes the bug. This is on an E6500 running XP. I installed a copy of XP FROM SCRATCH and the problem was present on the very first boot. I guess its hardware…

  25. Aaron Says:

    Attention everyone! I think I may have a fix for this!

    I’m on a laptop, so when I play a game my memory gets chewed up tons. xD. But I went through my control panel to see if there are any programs I don’t need that I can delete, and I also went to the task manager and ended quite a few processes not needed by the system. And guess what happened! MY MOUSE WAS FIXED! :D . Yes indeed people, I think this little issue is due to too much memory being used. Try deleting some programs and ending some processes..it helped me! :D Good luck!

  26. Will Says:

    I changed to a new logitech wireless keyboard & the problem went away. I’ve been using it for 2 weeks with no issues. I was using a microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse. I think it was an issue with the vista drivers for me.

  27. Contradiktionz Says:

    The way I fixed this was to disable the Desktop Window Manager process. Hope it works for you all, this is very annoying as a gamer.

  28. Jeff Says:

    I found the same workaround as a few others that have posted: bringing up the Task Manager (which, of course, has to be done via “ctrl-alt-del” followed by “alt-t”) somehow causes the problem to stop. Immediately after the Task Manager comes up the left mouse button starts responding correctly. I’m on an E6500 with Vista Ultimate and this problem occurred straight out of the box.

    Aaron, good observation, I think you’ll find that you don’t need to stop any processes for the mouse to start working. Also, for the record, this isn’t a fix, it’s a workaround. :)

    Cheers..

  29. Paul Says:

    Yes, this problem is driving me nuts. Not quite sure what to blame it on but I think it must be a relatively recent update. I’ve disable DWM, like a previous poster, and will see if that helps. Microsoft really need to sort this one out.

  30. Adam Says:

    I just started having the same issue the last couple of days on my Vista Standard 32 bit system. At first I thought it was just an issue with my Citrix apps. But now I have had the same issue with other buttons I could not click in standard Windows dialogs. Has anyone learned anything new about maybe a Microsoft article that might explain the true source of the issue?

  31. Paul Says:

    I don’t want to get happy too quickly, but I may have fixed my issue. I had previously disabled TMM in the task scheduler (Microsoft->Windows->MobilePC) to work around a different issue. After re-enabling it today I haven’t had the no-click problem.

  32. sam Says:

    disabled nvidia services and RESTARTED windows firewall which appeared to have stopped.
    Now all objects are clickable.
    Did have a program in alt tab with no icon OR name which seems to have disappeared.

  33. sam Says:

    *should also mention that the window would also loose focus with keyboard shortcuts too, so whatever this particular glitch is i don’t think its mouse specific

  34. Matt Says:

    Same exact issue. All of a sudden I would be unable to click either the taskbar or desktop/icons. OR I wouldn’t be able to close out of windows, because when I clicked them they immediately became un-highlighted.

    Before I stumbled across this forum I did a fresh reinstall of Vista 64 business and a complete reformat of the drive itself. STILL HAVING THE ISSUE ON A FRESH INSTALL.Opening the task-manager seems to shake up whatever’s going on.. and often times restores functionality for a minute or two.

    This began yesterday all of a sudden, I’m afraid I haven’t got any solutions, just sharing experience in hopes it might lead someone toward one.

  35. Charles Says:

    I’m having this problem too. It appears to be that the mouse is only able to function properly on one window at a time. Switching mouses, rebooting, full AVG/SpyBot scans haven’t been working for me.

    The problem seems to disappear intermittently (like now, but I’m confident that it’ll be making an appearance soon). I couldn’t find the above-mentioned MS Office registry key, so I couldn’t play around with it.

    Just something I noticed – the mouse is fully functional during the “death throes” of my PC (in the 10 or 15 seconds or so when it’s about to shut down and automatically closing all the programs in the background)… It’s probably a good indication that this problem is due to some offending program or service.

    I’m going to play around in Task Manager when this thing surfaces again. Hopefully I’ll be able to root it out.

  36. Astro Says:

    Hey i got the same problem, sometimes i can move the mouse pointer but i cant click, the only way to fix it is to ctrl+alt+del and choose Task Manager… its really annoying.

  37. Jeff Says:

    I’ve got the same thing. Did a 2-hour chat with Microsoft. Reset IE settings, tried changing screen resolution, changed screen color to 16-bit, changed background desktop photo, removed gadgets from desktop, etc, but I can’t get rid of it.

    I did notice that the problem NEVER occured during online chat, when video reverts to basic; however, manually putting it in basic mode afterwards did not fix it.

    During chat, it didn’t reoccur during reboot; however, it did reoccur during reboot everytime aftwards…so, what’s going on during desktop sharing that seemed to disable this problem?

    I think it has something to do with Windows Explorer. It’s like there’s an invisible window open that doesn’t let you click under it.

    By the way, you can CTRL+ALT+DEL and then just hit “cancel” when the menu appears…you don’t have to go to Task Manager…but something when you hit CTRL+ALT+DEL is eliminating whatever this conflict is.

  38. Lizzy Says:

    I have the same problem as well, and nothing I have tried so far has worked. It seems to happen completely randomly with my laptop.

  39. Astro Says:

    ah well this problem drives me mad,i am gonna just unistall vista from my laptop and get windows 7..

  40. Darth Bobo Says:

    FYI: I was having this issue and installed Vista SP2 (64-bit) and have not had it since.

  41. MrC Says:

    Just installed windows 7 RC and am still having the problem.

  42. Kevin Says:

    It happened to me June 15th. I use Vista Ultimate on a Media Player. I keep it very stripped down and use it mostly as a media player. No Microsoft Office products installed. The Ctrl-Alt-Delete is the only way to get past it. Like it that I am not alone.. dont like it hasn’t been addressed by Microsoft in an update.

  43. Lizzy Says:

    The Ctl-Alt-Del “fix” does not work for me :( . Doesnt seem to make any difference.

    Might have to go with Windows 7 and see whether that cures it, although I notice that for some this hasnt worked either.

  44. PiotrMykajlo Says:

    Hi,
    I got same problem. I’m trying to resolve it but I found another “fix”. Try use ctrl+esc. After this my mouse start clicking.

  45. Faq Says:

    I also having the same problem. I have a feeling it’s a Nvidia driver problem. This same problem usually happens after I leave a full screen video display, such as watching a video with VLC.
    Faq´s last blog ..Windows Systemdateien prüfen und reparieren My ComLuv Profile

  46. JW Says:

    I might as well add to the pile of complaints. For the record, I’m running Vista Ultimate 64-bit, and don’t have Office. The mouse cursor moves, but nothing responds either to mouse clicks or to mouse-over. Happens sporadically, and seemingly in grouped episodes (i.e., fine for a while, then over 2-3 days will occur on and off). Seems to be particularly exacerbated by windows updates and Firefox. Touchpad, mouse, same thing.

    The Windows Key on the keyboard will bring up the Start Menu immediately; clicking on the Start Menu with the mouse will cause the menu to immediately disappear without running whatever the cursor was pointed at.

    Ctrl-Alt-Del will “fix” the problem, after a very slight lag – it takes noticibly longer to bring up the task manager menu than during a normal, functional state – but it will usually reappear within 5 seconds. Restarting doesn’t help; it seems like you just have to wait it out, or hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every 5-10 seconds.

    Highly annoying, and frankly if it’s not fixed in Windows 7 I’m switching to a Mac. Never had a Mac before, but I’m seriously fed up with this and other Windows bugs. At least the BSOD is humorless and to the point – this bug just feels like someone’s having a laugh.

  47. noddy Says:

    Hi i could`nt right click & had just got a lap top out the box,anyway i got around the problem by uninstalling the yahoo toolbar that you get when you add webmail notifier,an add on for firefox.not sure if its a related problem but hope it helps.

  48. Stue Says:

    What you guys are describing sounds alot like what my problem is like.

    However, the way i stumbled over the \left-click stops working\ problem was when i was playing a game while using teamspeak and suddenly someone told me my mic was open even when i wasnt holding the transmit-button down (mouse 4).

    I then changed tasks to check what was going on with teamspeak and noticed that on SOME DIALOG ELEMENTS my mouse wud not work.

    The \jammed\ mouse4 button led me to believe that somehow the mouse driver or something must have crashed or at least a button listener or whatever.

    As i said, the left click wud register on SOME dialog elements but on others not. I.e. i wud be able to click on desktop icons but not on the taskbar / quickbar icons.

    I then noticed what i wud scroll my mousewheel real fast i wud be able to change \focus\ to whatever dialog was under my mouse (desktop, taskbar, some application). But it was not 100% replicable. After some tries it stopped working entirely.

    Along with the left-click problem comes that mouse4 and mouse5 wudnt work either, only mouse2 (right click). Sometimes mouse5 wud work (browser-forward) but not mouse4 (browser-back).

    Heres something interesting though:

    Randomly i found out that i cud restore FULL mouse button functionality by executing a wild combination of mouse buttons. I still havent figured out which combination, i just pressed em all wildly until everything worked again. This happened about 2-3 times.

    This leads me to believe that there might be some kind of hidden shortcut or hidden button combination (on a binary level of the mouse communicating with the driver) that screws up the button behaviour in windows.

    Since people are reporting that a reinstall or even switch to Windows7 wont permanently get rid of the problem i think we need a real solution to this!

  49. David Says:

    This solution seems to have fixed my problem http://blog.bidenpc.com/vista-mouse-cant-click/

  50. David Says:

    Or perhaps I should post this link http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;940791
    Sick, not thinking

  51. admin Says:

    Thanks David! I added your info to http://blog.bidenpc.com/vista-mouse-cant-click-fixed/.

  52. Mike Says:

    Thanks David so much for this find! It has been 3 days and thus far my laptop is working perfectly again. It had gotten to the point where I had to do a ctrl alt del every minute to get the pointer and window(s) back in focus. It had become a nightmare. But since this hotfix everything is back to normal. Interesting that MS says this is for “word” only. Thanks again!

    Cheers

  53. Tumbler333 Says:

    Hi guys

    I MIGHT HAVE A FIX/WORKAROUND FOR THIS PROBLEM!

    Ill try to explain what I did to permanently fix it (only works if your mouse uses USB).

    Only problem is my Vista is in Danish so im guessing a little about what the things are called in the English version so hope you understand it.

    This is what i did:

    Open “Control Panel” and then choose “Device Manager”.
    In the “Device Manager” open the “Usb Manager” in the bottom of the box.
    Right click on one of the first on the list (exampel: intel(R) ICH9 family USB ect…) and click “Properties”
    In the “Properties” box click “Advanced”
    In the bottom you should be able to choose two things (if you cant then open properties on another USB):
    “Notify me if this device can work faster” (uncheck this so it’s OFF)
    “Don’t notify me about USB-failure” (check this so it’s ON)
    (Again im guessing about what it’s called in English)

    That should fix it…

    If your interested you can read the rest to :P

    It all just started with no actual reason. My mouse is about 6 months old and has been working perfectly.

    I have an USB mouse that can’t click from time to time and an old PS/2 that works all the time.

    My symptoms were open windows not responding (inactive) to mouse clicks and in games like WoW i could see the icons flashing but not responding to mouse clicks. Even after a fresh install of Vista and using “Diagnostic Startup” the “freeze” would happen. This all got fixed by pushing ctr+alt+delete and then esc.

    Im guessing it must be an invisible box that needs to be clicked or something and then disappears when clicking Ctrl+alt+delete. And then by checking the box “Don’t notify me about USB-failure” (or what ever its called in English) fixed the problem cause the box doesn’t appear anymore.

    Hope this guide and my crappy English helped you out.

    Please post if this also works for you (:

  54. Hamoud Says:

    I went to my nVidia settings and resettled everytime to original settings and the problem went away.

    But, suspiciously, it sometimes laggs. This seemed to happen once I installed the nVidia update.

  55. Matthew Says:

    i am having the same problem and have looked over several sites. the only thing that seems to work is hitting ctrl-esc. i dont know why. i do have lots of usb devices plugged in so that as a root cause does resonate with me. i left the computer on from this morning – it was running fine. i came back home after work and it had the problem again. i restarted dwm.exe to no avail. i then hit ctrl-esc and the problem disappeared. not a fix, but it helps temporarily. i have google photo screensaver but activated it and that didnt seem to cause the problem right away. i still suspect the root cause is a usb driver conflict of some sort.

  56. Frankie Says:

    I just recently started having this problem as well. I found that by pulling up the task manager and ending the explorer.exe process and then restarting it also resolves the issue. It seems that some new startup process has been introduced that bugs out the explorer.exe.

  57. Norm Prettyman Says:

    I, too, am having this problem on a Toshiba x205 SLi2 laptop. It started a at the beginning of this year. I switched to the beta Windows 7 thinking it was a virus and formatted both hard drives prior to installation. This did not fix the problem and have had the problem through today. Today, I tried resetting the two Nvidia cards back to default and so far it is working. I will reply back later if this works. The usb settings did nothing as did the erasure and renaming of the registry key items. Like others here, I think it is an Nvidia driver issue.

  58. Norm Prettyman Says:

    Sorry all. None of the fixes will fix my computer.

  59. roseanne Says:

    hi..i’ve got the same problem too.at first i thought ctrl+alt+delete is not working in my case cause ive tried it several times but still it’s not working. but i found out that hitting ctrl alt delete really works! all you gotta do is hit ctrl alt delete then left click the X (close) button on the task manager..when task manager appears left click will already work.just hit the x button.

  60. melanie Says:

    Had the same problem today after trying to install a printer at a friend’s house. Didn’t realize the printer would only work with XP. Suddenly, couldn’t use my mouse at all. Had to go back to old TAB Letter format to navigate. Managed to get in and find control panel. Tried restoring to an earlier point. There was ALSO a Vista update that happened around the time I did the printer thing…so related?

    I read someone on here mentioned using a random bunch of wild mouse clicks…and THAT actually worked!!! No idea why. Am going to shut down the computer and restart and see if the same problem is going on. Weirdness.